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Stuck in a thought loop about creation timelines

Assalamu alaikum, folks. I’ve been diving deep into connecting the 6 days of creation in the Quran with what we know from cosmology, and honestly, my head’s spinning over the verses in Surah Fussilat (41:9-12). So we’ve got: - Earth made in 2 days (41:9). - Mountains and provisions set on it, “making it exactly four days” (41:10). - The sky as smoke, then shaped into seven heavens in 2 days (41:11-12). I’m tangled up on a couple of points: 1. **The numbers:** If Earth is 2 days and the mountains are 2, that’s 4. But the total creation is 6-does that mean Earth is 4/6ths of the universe’s age, or is it like a running count (2 plus 2 gives 4)? Like, do we add them up or not? 2. **The order:** Science tells us that the universe and nebulae came first to cook up heavy elements before a rocky Earth could form. So how do scholars, past and present, deal with the idea that Earth’s foundations were laid while the sky was still smoke? I’m leaning toward the *thumma* (then/moreover) pointing to a non-chronological structure (Tartib al-Dhikr), but I’m not sure. I’d love to hear your takes on this, without creating conflict between the texts and what we observe. I’ve spent way too many hours going in circles.

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Don't stress too much, akhi. 'Days' in the Quran aren't our 24-hour days, they can mean stages or periods. Science and the Quran aren't in conflict if we don't force literalism.

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Bro, I feel you. The 4 days thing always confused me too, but some scholars say it's 2+2 within a total of 6, not 4 separate days from the 6. So Earth gets 4 total, heavens get 2.

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Tartib al-Dhikr makes the most sense to me. The Quran often groups themes without caring about chronology. Science describes a process, revelation describes purpose.

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Ever thought these might be overlapping stages? Earth forms while the rest of the universe is still in its early phase. Nebulae forming heavy elements could be part of the 'smoke'.

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