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5 months ago

Seeking Honest Discussion About Hadith with Peace and Respect

As-salamu alaykum brothers and sisters, I hope you won’t downvote me because it’s really tough to have open and honest talks about Islam without fear of being shut down or ignored. Sometimes people get stuck in their own views because comments get deleted or downvoted, and that stops us from learning from each other. I truly believe we can use these conversations to learn and teach Islam better if we stop silencing people unless they’re being dishonest or harmful. If we don’t think this space can be for that, then why are we here? My goal is simple: I want to learn and make sure I am following what Allah truly wants from us. I’m not trying to argue or convince anyone, just sincerely seeking knowledge and to stay on the right path. I have no agenda except to honor Islam, Allah, and the Prophet (peace be upon him) whenever I can. So here’s what I’m thinking - and please know I could be wrong or influenced by Shaytan, but I’m not sure, which is why I’m asking you: Sometimes I wonder if certain Hadith that declare something haram might have been mistakenly classified as authentic (Sahih) by scholars. After all, except for the Prophets, all humans can err. Are Hadith scholars infallible when they judge and classify Hadith? If not, is it possible they made mistakes? I’m not saying they did, just wondering if it’s possible. If it is possible, shouldn’t we be careful about accepting Hadith that introduce new rules not mentioned in the Quran at all? Of course, this doesn’t apply to rules explained in the Quran but detailed in Hadith - like prayer, fasting, zakat, modesty, and so on. I mean rules about things with no mention in the Quran whatsoever. Shouldn’t we be cautious? If they’re wrong, that means we might be following something mistaken, which could affect millions of Muslims. I feel the same about Hadith that seem to lower the status of the Prophet, the Quran, or other Prophets. Even if there’s a tiny chance a Hadith is mistaken, should we risk labeling it true when it might hurt the image of our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him)? For example, the Hadith about Aisha (RA)’s age often comes up when I talk to non-Muslims about Islam. If there’s even a small chance it’s wrong, and it’s keeping people away from Islam, shouldn’t we reconsider? Is that risk worth it? Similarly, there’s a Hadith about Prophet Musa (AS) being seen naked by Bani Israel. What if there’s a tiny chance that’s wrong? Wouldn’t it hurt his honor? If someone said something like that about my family, I’d be upset - so how much more for the Prophets? There are also Hadith that suggest parts of the Quran were removed, which raises big questions. How can the Quran be changed? Doesn’t this risk shaking the faith of many Muslims? Why risk so much over something that might be mistaken? Today, atheists and non-Muslims use these challenging Hadith to attack Muslims’ faith. The usual answer from scholars is just to believe them, but that’s not how many people’s minds work. We face attacks from all sides - Shaytan, atheists, ex-Muslims, and people of other faiths - and we need better ways to protect our iman. In the past, Muslims lived mostly among other Muslims and weren’t exposed so much to these challenges. Now, with social media and the internet, attacks on iman are constant and relentless. It’s not necessarily that Muslims today are less faithful, but the pressures are greater. If we don’t address this now, it might be too late. We can’t risk the iman of millions. I’m not saying we reject all Hadith, but I think we should allow some doubt about Hadith that: 1. Lower the status of Allah, the Quran, or the Prophets. 2. Contradict established scientific facts. 3. Introduce new rulings not mentioned at all in the Quran. We know Hadith scholars were human and could err. It’s not dangerous to review Hadith sincerely and carefully, using well-established facts (not opinions or modern values). Scholars in the past evaluated Hadith with criteria; can we add these points to that? Also, can we reconsider Hadith that harm the Prophet’s image? I don’t have answers when non-Muslims ask about the Hadith regarding the Prophet’s marriage to Aisha (RA). If there’s even a 1% chance it’s mistaken, I don’t want to risk attributing something false to the best of creation (peace be upon him). Imagine meeting him in the hereafter and being asked why you did that? And what about introducing rules to Islam that might be mistakes? We can’t blame scholars blindly. Taqlid in matters of faith isn’t allowed. To be clear, I’m not rejecting all Hadith, just those that meet the concerns I mentioned. We can be selective, like previous scholars were. I pray Allah guides us all to the truth and that this message is received with understanding.

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5 months ago

Makes sense man, we gotta be careful about blindly following without questioning, especially with stuff that can confuse people outside our faith.

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5 months ago

Really appreciate this thoughtful approach. It's so important to question respectfully and seek clarity without shutting down discussions.

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5 months ago

Hope more people think like this. We need honest talks instead of just accepting everything no questions asked.

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5 months ago

I’ve wondered about some of these hadith myself. It's tough but glad someone’s bringing it up without drama.

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