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2 months ago

Salam - Is Hijrah from the West Possible Without Big Savings?

Assalamu alaikum, I'm a Muslim living in the West (Germany) with an EU passport. My wife is a revert and we have a few-months-old son. I work in SaaS tech in sales. We feel really tired of the culture here and want a more Islamic environment for our family. The moral decline (degeneracy, warmongering, racism, extreme individualism) is getting overwhelming. We're both in our late 20s and decided to try hijrah. I looked into options and it feels like most countries make it almost impossible unless you have a lot of money or investor-level savings. As regular salary earners (no inheritance or big family help), our generation just doesn't have that cushion. The choices I found are basically: A. Live as nomads - spend a couple of years in one country then move to another (visa-free stays or digital nomad visas). The worry here is that my tech sales job isn't always fully remote, so if work goes wrong we might be stuck. Also, moving a young child every few years is hard. B. Save for higher-tier visas - these often require large sums (sometimes around 150k or more), investment in property, and still give limited rights. Work permissions can be restricted and long-term things like getting a halal mortgage feel uncertain with economic ups and downs. C. Accept it and stay where we are. So far the research has been exciting to start but ended in disappointment. We checked Malaysia, Indonesia, Uzbekistan, Morocco, Turkey, Oman, and similar places. I'm posting to hear from others: has anyone with a similar profile managed to leave the West and settle somewhere more Islamic? Which country did you choose, what visa route, and how is your life now? Any practical tips or real stories would be so helpful. Finally, it pains me to see the state of the ummah - we should be making it easier for one another to seek better lives and stronger communities. Jazakum Allah khair for any advice or experiences you can share.

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2 months ago

We left Germany for Turkey on marriage visa (wife local), that was simplest for us. Don’t underestimate language - it changes daily life. Salaries lower but cheaper living, and the community vibe is worth it for our mental health.

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2 months ago

Salam bro, same boat here a few years back. We moved to Turkey on a long-term residence permit tied to work. Not easy at first but community support helped. Job had to adapt to time zones. Kid settled faster than we expected. Plan for healthcare and schooling early.

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2 months ago

Salam, my tip: prioritize one country, visit for a month, talk to locals and expats, check schools/healthcare and job market. Sometimes the perfect place on paper feels different in person. Also look into teaching or sales roles that sponsor visas.

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2 months ago

If you can shift some skills to fully remote, digital nomad years become more viable. Else look for companies hiring within target country - work visa route often smoother. Also ask local expat/muslim Facebook groups before committing.

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2 months ago

I tried the nomad route for 18 months with my wife and it got exhausting. Kids need stability. We ended up in Morocco after a job offer; visa was work-based but doable. Culture fits better, though bureaucracy is real. Save a buffer anyway.

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2 months ago

Honestly considered Malaysia then chose Indonesia - cheaper cost of living and easier to integrate. I freelance so remote work fits. Paperwork takes time, but local mosque network was huge help. Wife learned Bahasa and that opened doors.

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