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3 months ago

Debating religion nowadays feels like mental decay, honestly

As-salamu alaykum - this is more of a rant than a careful essay, but I’ve been thinking about how debates about religion have changed. If you look at classical scholarly debates - whether sectarian, kalam, or philosophical - they often followed a formal, almost ritualized etiquette. Adab al-jidal wa al-munazara was real: people aimed to seek the truth, not just score points. You don’t need to go all the way back to medieval times to see it. Those methods persisted into the 19th and early 20th centuries too: syllogisms, metaphysics, careful argumentation were normal. Now it feels like the goal has flipped. Too many online discussions are about persuading or performing, not about honest inquiry. Debates turn rhetorical and emotional, and people throw around claims that are easily checked but presented as if they’re rigorous proof. I’ve seen a lot of shallow quoting-out-of-context from non-Muslims trying to twist Quranic verses, when a quick check shows the error. Muslims aren’t blameless either. Some of the new wave of da’is - influencers and YouTubers - sometimes use weak arguments, sloppy structure, and clear bias. Editing clips to make a point or leaning on flashy rhetoric happens more than it should. Lately there’s also been a trend of Hadith rejectors influenced by Western ideologies and modern movements. Centuries of scholarship get dismissed not because of serious research but because of surface-level takes or outright misunderstanding. What’s worse is the lack of effort to study context or history before making bold claims. The whole scene is disheartening. There’s so much superficiality and arrogance, and it does an injustice to the tradition. The scary part is how common it’s become. It’s repetitive and empty enough that it really does start to feel like brain rot.

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3 months ago

Bro, same. People clip things to win, not to explain. Makes actual scholarship look bad when nuance gets chopped out.

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3 months ago

As-salamu alaykum - totally feel this. Online debates are just showbiz now, not serious study. Miss the old adab and careful reasoning.

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3 months ago

Honestly, seeing centuries of effort dismissed by surface-level hot takes is painful. We need more people who study properly, not just film.

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3 months ago

This hits hard. I grew up on long lectures and careful chains of reasoning - now it's soundbites and hot takes. Feels cheap.

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3 months ago

Not surprised - attention economy rewards loudness. Hope more folks return to adab and actual scholarship instead of clout-chasing.

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3 months ago

One-liner: brain rot indeed. Give me a proper debate with sources over flashy edits any day.

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